>> you do not want to char your food. >> i like blackened food. a little dash of black. >> well, maybe you're a lost cause. >> her recipe for keeping american food great. ♪ >> welcome to the jungle. the legendary slash from his wild days and nights of guns n' roses to the rock and roll hall of fame. the music, the feuds. axel. tonight, flash tells all. in a no-holds-barred primetime exclusive. this is "piers morgan tonight." good evening. our big story tonight, the bane of politics. listen to mitt romney today blasting president obama for his stance on private equity. >> it's no wonder so many of his own supporters are calling him to stop this war on job creators. make no mistake. when i'm president you won't wake up every day and wonder if the president is on your side.

[ applause ] >> there was a big applause line for the business people in the audience. candidate romney also spoke out on joblessness today, telling "time" magazine that his policies would bring the unemployment rate of america down to 6% within four years. well, joining me now to talk more on this big story, a man who could probably tell us if that is even achievable. he can also tell us about facebook, about jpmorgan, in fact about all the raging stories in the world of business and politics right now. jack welch. how are you? >> great. it's great to be here. >> i'm very excited you're here. i've heard from lots of people i would say who are less qualified over the last few weeks. pontificating on all the airwaves about these issues. let's start with the bain capital furor. the reason i think it's a very significant one is the clear dividing line, it was never going to be about gay marriage, this election. it was always going to be about the economy. and now you have the dividing line. president obama says that mitt romney's record at bain was destructive, it cost jobs, it was profiteering.

mitt romney says no, i created jobs. i turned businesses around. i'm proud of it. i can do the same with america. you have a connection. let's establish that. your wife worked at bain. you're a romney supporter. you've said that on the show. but tell me about the argument over private equity in relation to the two stances. >> well, i've worked in private equity the last 12 years also. let me just say this. think were romney, i'd say bring it on, mr. president. i've got three things i want to talk to you about regarding private equity. one is private equity companies don't buy jewels. they buy broken businesses. orphan businesses that big companies don't want. so what do they have to do? they have to deal with the balance sheet, which is often a mess, and they have to deal with the strategy of the broken business. so that's number one. they have to go in and deal with those tough problems. what has america got a problem with right now? a strategy and a balance sheet. great experience. he's done it with hundreds of

companies. now, there's a -- >> has he always done the right thing with those companies? >> maybe not. maybe 20% that they say haven't worked out. but you're taking broken companies. take the steel company that they like to advertise about now. that steel company would never have gone ten years in the '90s without an investment to keep it going. this was a dead business. >> what about joe biden's claim that just because you can run a company like bain it doesn't mean you're any more fit than a plumber to run the presidency. >> well, that's an outrageous comment. but he doesn't like plumbers. but that's a different argument. let's make the argument, the second point along with strategy and balance sheet. >> it doesn't mean he doesn't like plumbers, does it? >> let's go to talent, okay? let's go to talent, piers. when you take over a broken company, you've goto put talent in. what does the president have to do in office in he's got to put talent in. he won't have a secretary of energy like we have now that

doesn't have any idea about business or how to drill and get things. all he wants to do is raise the price of gasoline. he'll put talent in these jobs. so he'll staff better. >> what about this, jack? i hear what you say -- >> i want you to hear what i say. >> i hear it loud and clear. but here's part of the problem that i think the republicans have. many people blame the policies that were conducted by the republicans for eight years for the financial crisis that engulfed america and the world. how does mitt romney distance himself from what happened before? because he can't blame obama for all that. >> he talks about his qualifications vis-a-vis obama. i just gave you a strategy, balance sheet, and talent. and now what does a private equity company do when it buys these companies? it globalizes them. so he's been dealing with governments. he's been dealing with the nuts and bolts of running companies globally. he ought to be talking about these characteristics that make him a great leader. we want a leader. we want a leader to take over this country, piers.

>> what about the problem that they have in terms of perception with the fact that many americans blame wall street, and president obama's fueled this attitude, for a lot of the greed and naked capitalism at its worst, which brought america to its knees? >> well, he doesn't have any association with that. that's just ridiculous. he ought to talk about his qualifications. and private equity gives him incredible breadth of qualifications along with being governor of a state and other things. but i mean, without question, the idea of being embarrassed because you're in private equity is the silliest argument in the world. >> be honest on this one, jack. >> when am i not honest? >> i'm not disputing for a moment your integrity. i'm just saying on this particular question i'm about to ask you i'd be fascinate bd a proper answer. people that criticize mitt romney over the position he takes about it say when he uses bain as an example of job creation, they say that's a load of phooey. that's not why any private equity company buys a company. they don't buy it to create jobs. they buy it to turn it round and

make a profit. >> i agree with that. >> so is he wrong to say it was about job creation? >> i think making the job creation was not the smartest case to make. >> right. >> but creating jobs that last, durable jobs, in a forward, quote, economy, that's what private equity does. i've been involved for over 10 years now, 12 years. we have not had a busted company. we've taken broken companies and taken them forwar and they're now flourishing. so you do -- you don't create scads of jobs, but you create good-paying jobs in a continuing industry. >> do you think this will be the key battleground, the ideological dispute we're now seeing over this? >> if it is, romney ought to wipe it out. look -- when you look at those things that i gave you for the qualifications, compare it to somebody who was handing out leaflets as a community organizer, the global experience of doing all this, piers, it's not even close.

>> again, i come back to the problem with mitt romney and perception. for whatever reason the public look at him in america and they see a very wealthy guy. they see him as a kind of corporate fat cat, for want of a better phrase. and that may or may not be fair to him. but that's how many americans see him. a lot of it down to his own gaffes and things that he's said. and when i look at this in the totality they'll be like, well, okay, this is all very well, but he's a very rich guy who made himself very rich doing this company. that's not what we want from our president. what we want from the president is for him to help us get jobs, not for him to make himself even richer. >> and that's what private equity does. it creates jobs -- it creates jobs in companies that would have gone under. these companies, you don't get a great jewel and then invest in it. you get a broken company. you invest in it and make it alive. you keep a -- you take a dead carcass and put oxygen into it and keep it alive.

that's what private equity does. now, is it st. a big job creator? no. but does it keep jobs, piers? yes. >> let's play something i did with howard schultz from starbucks on this show. very interesting concept he came up with which i want to ask you about. >> i don't believe you can build a sustainable enterprise with a singular goal just on profit. it's a shallow goal. i don't think you can endure. i don't think you can attract great people. and i think the best part of business right now is trying to create the balance between profitability and a social conscience. >> i found that really fascinating. he called it moral capitalism. and to illustrate this he said look, we're bringing a factory he's opening in georgia, we could source it out. people said afterwards there's no comparison between him and apple because he does coffee and they do -- what about the cups? he must produce more cups i would imagine than anybody in the world. so again, the argument applies equally to a lot of american companies. when he talks about moral capitalism, what is your instinctive reaction to that? >> i like what he says because

guess what he starts with. he starts with starbucks, a highly successful, profitable company. you can't do the right thing, the moral thing from a broken wagon. you can't do it. and so the idea of not having successful, highly profitable companies who can give back -- when i retired from ge, we had 50,000 of our employees mentoring students in the inner cities in new york, kentucky, all those things. we could do that. do you think general motors could have done that at that time? not that they weren't just as good people as we were. they were broke. so you want your company to be profitable so you can give back. you can't give back from an empty wagon. >> what about the concept which i've pushed a lot and some businessmen freak out when i say it, about companies like apple who outsource a lot of their work now to places like china deliberately bringing it back at a financial cost to them in the

short term but actually for the benefit of america as a -- >> i'm not sure it might be. you want apple to be as successful as they can be. then apple can take those resources that it gets and give it out as it sees fit. it can pay taxes. it can donate to great charities. when i ran united ways for years, when i went around to busted companies and knocked on their door for money, the ceo would say i'm sorry, i can't help you out this year. come back next year. when i went to companies that were winning -- that's why winning is good. >> talking about winning, facebook, obviously launched this week to huge hysteria. and taken a huge fall since it opened. we saw mark zuckerberg in a prearranged deal made a billion dollars, cashing in some shares. there are issues about morgan stanley and about their role in all this. what is your opinion of the whole ipo launch of facebook this week? >> ugly. it turned out that greed

overtook rational behavior. and they had it priced right, it looks like, and they had the right amount of stock being put out, it looks like. the way the stock has leveled out today it looks like that was right. and what happened was at the last minute they jumped in and went for too much stock at too high a price. and as a result of that there's a black eye all over the place. >> is that just pure naked greed? >> one from a distance might think so. >> which leads me to the situation at jpmorgan. massive losses there. we know it's going to be well in excess of 2 billion. we don't know quite how big. you talked about leadership. the leader of jpmorgan jamie dimon is renowned as one of the great business leaders of america. what has gone wrong there? how after everything we've been through in the last few years could a company make that kind of loss without apparently some of the top people having any idea? >> some people made a mistake. how did the gsa guys go to

hawaii and have themselves a party? why didn't barack obama stop that right away? no, but barack obama dealt with it once he learned of it. >> has jamie dimon dealt with this problem? >> right up to now, absolutely right. and now he's got to shift his emphasis from taking care of all the schauden froyd people up there and all the people trying to capitalize on regulation in reuters, we're talking about his challenge now is to galvanize the internal people. >> happensn't there got to be regulation to -- >> of course there has to be something. >> he's always railed against it. >> he hasn't railed against all regulation. >> he railed against the particular regulation which ironically would have stopped this -- >> most people say no, that's not the same regulation that would have stopped this. the argument -- that argument's not -- >> if you're an average american watching this and they're saying how can a company lose over 2 billion, maybe 3 billion -- >> of its own money. >> -- and it's put down as a mistake, a bad day at the office. >> of its own money.

of its own money. they're going to make several billion dollars this quarter. mistakes occur all over the world every day. >> does it help the american financial system for jpmorgan to take a -- >> it would have been a lot better if it never happened, of course. >> had that have been a smaller bank, they could have gone under with a hit like that. so they were lucky that their balance sheet were so heavily in profit. >> they were a very small company. >> yet they still made this catastrophic mistake. >> no, catastrophic would mean it would be over. they made a large mistake which they're handling. they've handle td well to now. now they've got to get their people on board. >> but one way, jack, for confidence to be restored to the american financial system -- >> is to do everything perfectly. >> no. but not to make such massive mistake through what appears to be just a naked attempt to make a greedy fast buck. >> we don't know that. >> do you suspect that? >> no, we don't suspect that. >> what do you suspect was going on? >> they were trying to hedge the thing and it slid into something else. i don't actually know enough to

comment on that. but i do know they came clean right away. they've been very forthright about it. and they're going to make mistakes. the challenge for jamie dimon is you're knocked off the horse, how do you get back on again? and get on -- >> is he the right guy to do that? >> absolutely. >> finally, what is the state of the american economy now? should people be feeling generally more confident? >> pretty good. it's not great. it's nowheres near what we need. but we're going to grow in the 2% to 2 1/2% range over the next couple of quarters. we're going to add over 150,000 plus or minus jobs. >> but a lot better than it was, say three years ago? >> a lot better than it was three years ago. >> so obama's done a pretty good job then. >> well, he's done a job of rah bringing it back in the cycle. >> do you give him credit for that? >> no, he hasn't brought it back anywhere near fast enough. this is the weakest recovery we've ever had. >> what do you give him credit for in terms of the economy? >> that's a tough one for me.

that's a tough one. >> i tell you what. come back another time when you've thought of an answer. >> i will. >> jack, as always, great to have you. >> always a pleasure. thanks. >> jack welch, president of the jack welch management institute and the founder of ge. next a man with an appetite for destruction. my interview with the immortal slash, talking music, mayhem, axl rose, and probably the night i had with him in copenhagen once. 12 hours of drunken marauding. and i lived to tell the tale. jack, you want to stick around for this?

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♪ sixstring superstar slash in downtown new york last night. the guitar god from guns n' roses now in the rock and roll hall of fame.

he's battled addictions, even axl rose. he's achieved iconic stat wuss a style all of his own. he now joins me for a primetime exclusive. welcome, slash. >> hi. >> people want to know this, but copenhagen, the early '90s, guns n' roses at the height of their powers, you and i conducted our first interview together. and at the end of it you said would you like a jack daniel's? which i'd never experienced before. i tasted the jack daniel's and 12 hours later you and i were in a piano bar in some god forsaken hellhole hotel still drinking jack daniel's and you walked off into the sunset with my favorite jacket which i never got back. >> yeah, i'm not sure -- >> i thought it was the price of pain. >> i would love to find that jacket and give it back to you. >> it was blue. it fitted me. it was everything i wanted in a jacket. you just took it. you had about 1,000 jackets. i've said this many times on the show. it was the single greatest rock performance i've ever seen. by anybody.

it was just incredible. secondly, it was one of the most outrageous spectacles, the whole 24 hours, i've ever been party to. fighting at press conferences. drunken, rampaging. it was all everything i ever imagined and hope rock and roll could be about. thirdly, the interview, when i then played it back, was one of the most lucid, smart, intelligent interviews i'd done with anyone for a long time. and it wasn't supposed to be that way. >> probably not. all things considered, as much partying and all that stuff that went on in those days, i always stride to be somewhat intelligent when it came to having a discussion with somebody or an interview or whatever. i did my best. i had my moments but there were times i was really out to lunch. >> talking about out to lunch-i interviewed gregg allman last night, another rock legend. but he obviously had a lot of problems with drugs. and i got the feeling he slightly jumped the shark. whereas when i reinterviewed you

for "gq" magazine you'd clearly come through, the whole process, the whole rock and roll destructive process, and you'd come out the other end apparently with no damage. do you feel lucky? >> i was very fortunate. because the kind of addiction that i had was something that was a long-term kind of a thing. and getting out of that is really a struggle for a lot of people. and some people don't make it out of it. so i was very fortunate that i could finally get it together and prioritize and come out the other end in one piece, so to speak. >> we're going to discuss the new album, new slash album soon. but i can't not discuss guns n' roses. i know you sort of hailed this because although it was fantastic and you sold millions of records and it was so iconic, because of the way it ended you don't want to sit here banging on about axl rose for the rest of your life. >> right. >> do you? >> no. yeah.

it's a lot of attention put on a lot of negative stuff. and granted, the negative stuff existed and might still exist, or whatever. but you know, dwelling on that stuff, all things considered, i left the band in 1996. so we're talking, you know, a pretty long amount of time -- >> when was the last time you actually spoke? >> it was 1996. >> do you remember the last words? are they repeatable? >> no, no, it wasn't like that. i think the last words -- basically, it was just that i'm done. i think that was -- >> who said that? >> i did. >> "i'm done"? >> yeah. and it wasn't even me necessarily leaving the band. it was not continuing on with the new band that axl put together that he was now at the helm of, which was the new guns n' roses. and i was given a contract to basically join his new band. and you know, it took about 24 hours before i decided i think this is the end of the line.

>> what is the single biggest offer you've had to put it all behind you and get back on a stage together? >> well, i've heard a lot of numbers. >> what's the most ridiculous? >> i've never been handed a specific offer. but it's in the -- >> seven figures? eight figures? >> i'd say it starts off with seven figures. and then sometimes it starts to get even more grant yodiose tha that. >> is there any check that would tempt you? >> i don't think it's a matter of that. it really isn't. i think you've got a situation where nobody involved wants to revisit. it's not just me. it's the whole -- you he no, the whole band. and so i don't think there's a price tag that anybody's going to put in front of us that's going to make that work. >> let's take a short break. i want to come back and i want to talk to you about what has been the greatest moment for you on a stage. you once hinted that it was a night in argentina. >> right. >> with 250,000 people,

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♪ back now with my primetime exclusive interview with rock legend slash. that's his new single "you're alive" from his latest album "apocalyptic love." we left on a cliff-hanger there. what was the moment for you? >> well, you're talking about a concert that was in -- i think it was in argentina back in the '90s, i mentioned in an interview we did before, which was when it was pouring really thick rain and there was steam coming off the audience and we were playing "november rain." the timing was such that as soon as we went into the chords of "november rain" this rainstorm started. and just seeing this crowd sort of bouncing and the rhythm of the song. >> huge outdoor crowd.

250,000 people. >> that was intense. there's a few of them but that one was picturesque. >> for someone like me who's never going to come close to that, what is the physical experience? >> the physical experience is there's the energy of the band playing a heartfelt song. and then you have that interaction with an audience that's reacting to that. and it's a huge amount of energy. and it's really -- it's the kind of moment that makes everything that you go through in your career worthwhile because that chemistry, that -- you know, that feeling that's communicated between the audience and yourself is something that is overwhelming. >> there are people watching this who will be thinking slash and piers could be brothers. not many people admittedly, but there are. the reason is because you were born in stoke on trent in the north of england. your correct english haim is saul hudson. do you feel remotely english?

>> yeah, i feel very connected to my british roots. i mean, i've got extended family in england. my dad's british, obviously. and i go there all the time. and whenever i'm there i'm obviously visiting with family and we're very connected. i think it's something in the blood where having been born there you feel, you know, permanently connected. you know. it's weird. >> talk about the new album. you've had a very successful career since leaving guns n' roses. and this is by common consent at the moment probably your best work. what is it like making an album as slash when you can hook in whoever you like? anyone will play with you. >> well, i mean, that's not really -- i mean, that's a nice thing for you to say. but i mean, as a musician i'm just out there, you know, trying to put together relationships, musical relationships that are really effective. and it's not as easy as just calling up anybody and making it happen. i have built up a lot of really great relationships over the

years, and i've played with a lot of really great people. >> you play with everyone. >> yeah. not everyone. >> if you were creating a supergroup, all the talent you've ever seen, played with, whatever, who would be in there? >> well, i mean, some of those people -- if you're talking about people that are living that i've actually played with before, iggy pop is great. he's a great artist to work with. so i'd say maybe iggy pop, maybe lenny kravitz. that's a tough question. i'd have to think about it for a minute. >> who would be your drummer? >> that's what i'm trying to figure out. probably quest-love from the roots. he's an amazing drummer. >> and no one wants to do this, but who would play the other guitarist to you? >> it would be cool to jam with jack white. i've never jammed with him, and i think he's amazing. >> i've got a little clip for you. this is lenny kravitz. i had him on my show recently. >> you actually look quite

similar. >> yeah, we could be family. >> you scould be brothers. he's got the nose rings and stubble. and he's very cool, too. >> he's a beautiful person. what you see is what you get. he's honest. he's loving. >> see, you two really could be brothers. if you take the hair and the hat off. and the shades. there you are. twins. >> well, that's very nice. >> what did you think of what he said? >> well, that was really sweet. but he's a really great guy. we got to be friends years ago. and funnily enough, we went to the same high school together. and i remember him from then. because we were two of the -- i mean, the only two mixed kids that i knew of in that school. i was in what you call continuation, and he was in the regular school for kids who have potential to graduate, and i was where the kids that smoke cigarettes and don't have much time left at that school. anyway, but i remember him from then. and then we hooked up when he had his "let love rule" album out, which i thought was great,

and we got to be really great friends and actually worked together and wrote a song together sxshs we've been friends ever since. but he is a great guy. >> let's take another break. i want to come back, and i want to talk to you about rock and roll excess. i can't think of a finer expert to analyze all the various parts that it takes to be a rock and roll legend, which you are. i want to know who, where, when, and why. >> all right. [ male announcer ] this is corporate caterers, miami, florida. in here, great food demands a great presentation. so at&t showed corporate caterers how to better collaborate by using a mobile solution, in a whole new way. using real-time photo sharing abilities, they can create and maintain high standards, from kitchen to table. this technology allows us to collaborate with our drivers to make a better experience for our customers. [ male announcer ] it's a network of possibilities -- helping you do what you do... even better. ♪ helping you do what you do... are you still sleeping?

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♪ back with my special guest slash. slash, you basically are a rock star. and i've discussed it with you before but i think for the benefit of this interview i just want to -- you've been clean what, six years now? >> almost seven. >> before that moment came and you were leading this crazy life, this sort of archetypal rock star life, was it fun? because so many people come out of it and go, oh, it was terrible, i wish i'd never done it. >> no, i don't have any regrets about any of it. and it was a lot of fun.

and i think a lot of that whole sort of lifestyle, that freedom of being able to do whatever you want to do and have a good time, however you want to do it, is all great. but it catches up with you at some point. you don't see it coming. there's an invisible line that you cross that it becomes the massive addiction thing. the physical and emotional. and you become a slave to that. >> what was the thing that got you out of it personally? >> being able to look at it from both sides. not being so out of it that i couldn't get some sort of perspective on it. and i -- you know, it was like going -- enduring the detoxing was something i didn't want to have to deal with. but you know, towards the end of it, sort of being very conscious of where i was standing with my music at that point, taking -- because i didn't have the sort of umbrella of guns n' roses at that point, so it really is sort of taking my -- the initiative to get my career under control.

>> at the height of your womanizing, if that's a way to describe it -- >> which is an addiction unto itself. >> you had a sort of addiction which ended up with you hiring a number of hotel rooms in the same hotel room for various women, none of whom knew about each other. >> but that was fun. at the time it was fun. >> expensive, wasn't it in. >> it was a little bit expensive. >> and yet oddly you are now with the same woman you've been with for quite some time. >> she's a remarkably tenacious woman. >> do you feel like you met your match with her? >> yeah, definitely. >> is that what you -- >> when she and i first met, i knew that i was -- i was hooked when we first met and i tried to keep my distance from her for a long time because i knew once that relationship was seriously established that things were going to change. >> how many times would you say in your life you've been properly in love? >> i think i'd say -- properly? that was the first time. >> are you a good dad?

>> i really try. you know, i mean, i think i'm a great dad, but at the same time i'm not a conventional dad, either. i'm sort of learning just as, you know, most new dads are, how to do the right thing. but i think that i'm a pretty responsible parent. i think i'm morally sound. so i think i'm instilling the right things in my kids. >> what's the future? what's the unachieved ambition, the dream that's left? do you have one? >> i don't have like an unachieved dream. i think that i'm still sort of chasing the original dream, which was to make music and go out and make records and go out and do concerts and tour and stuff. and i've been -- done a lot of different things over the years. but you know, like what i'm doing right now is definitely the most fun that i've had in a really long time. >> wasn't it for you a great honor to be inducted into the hall of fame? >> yeah, it was a great honor.

it was something that once i was there and we were accepting the acknowledgment that i started to see things a little bit differently. going into it, it was -- you know, i had a lot of mixed feelings about the whole thing. >> did you understand where axl was coming from with his protest about it all? >> i didn't -- you know, i didn't even really read it. i knew what it was about, and i didn't bother to really try and read into his feelings on the whole thing or -- i was just like -- at that point i was just confronted with a decision to make, are we going to go up and play anyway or are we going to not go or whatever? and you know, we opted for going. and it was a good experience. >> slash, it's been a great experience for me to catch up with you again. it's a great album. slash featuring miles kennedy and the conspiratorors, "apocalyptic love." which is a perfect title for you. i feel a movie coming along with that. >> good talking to you. >> take care. coming up, from a guitar god to

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at least some of your ancestors were muslim. >> oh, muslim? >> muslim. >> the name albiniak is associated with an ethnic group taught the tattars. and the town of yanov has been inhabited by tatars and their descendants for centuries and centuries. they were part of genghis khan's mongol empire. >> and i dog's name is genghis khan. >> bizarre scenes there. martha stewart getting a closer look at her own family tree on the pbs show "finding your roots." martha's new cookbook centered on the roots of america called "martha's american food." a celebration of our nation's most treasured dishes from coast to coast. it's her 77th book. 77th book? >> yes. >> my god. that's unbelievable. you've written 77 books? >> well, i and some of my editors have worked on a lot of these books, too. but they're very, very good books. this is a wonderful book because not only does it have great recipes in it, piers, but it also has the back stories to lots of the recipes. >> i'm going to come to this

book because it is a great book, actually. but i can't get past genghis khan. you're represented ed related ? >> well, who knows? he covered a lot of territory. >> but you coincidentally have a dog called genghis khan. >> i've always liked the idea of genghis khan. and genghis the dog is a chinese chow chow. so he might have been a dog that genghis would have had wait back then. it's a little convoluted. but all my dogs, the chow chows are all named after chinese emperors. >> there isn't actually any american blood in you at all. is this whole premise of this book, martha's -- shouldn't it be chinese martha's american food guide? >> i am 100% american. i was born in america. >> any american's 100% america. that's the point of america, is that none of you are. >> we are all american, who were born here anyway, and i think once you move here and get your citizenship you are american. it's an extraordinary place. >> it's an amazing place. i never understood why so few

americans travel out of america. when you're actually here and you travel around you see it's so different. one of the great things about the book is that you go to all parts of america and you find all the local recipes most relevant to the area you go to. >> right. well, i think because we are also the melting pot, we are more melting pot i think than most countries. europe gets very melting also, but america has so many different nationalities living here, so many people imposing their traditions and their family -- family ways on the american culture. and then they had such great endij nous e indigenous ingredients to start with. look what we had here. the bounty. we had corn. we had tomatoes. we had potatoes, blueberries, cranberries, all ingredients -- squash. all indigenous to the americas. >> if i pinned you down, martha, and said right, you've got an hour to live. i don't want to be the bearer of bad news. obviously, it's a metaphorical

scenario. but if i did, what's the meal you would have? what's the last thing you'd want to eat? >> well, if i were thinking about food at that point -- >> let's assume you've still got your -- >> i was very hungry and i was told i only had an hour. >> yes. >> i probably wouldn't be thinking about eating, piers, but -- >> what would you start with? >> probably good fresh eggs. delicious salad from the boiled really good farm butter. >> the main course, what would you have? >> that is my main course. >> you can't have that as a main course. you know what i would? it's in your book. pike plate fish and chips. >> where do you think that came from, fish and chips? >> britain. it's our national dish. but you don't have mushy peas here. >> no, but this is a good recipe. >> where are the mushy peas? >> they're somewhere in the

book. >> do you like mushy peas? >> yeah, right out of the can? >> you can push them up with a bit of gravy. >> i think they were famous because they were canned. >> that's a terrible indictment of my country's great national dish. you would seriously have eggs as your last snemeal? >> sure, and a glass of white wine? i love white burgundy. >> of all these dishes in here, which are the ones that you are most excited, would you say? >> the pies. i think pies are so typically american, the great apple pie, the great cherry pay, the lemon

marang pie, and of course, the cobblers. >> what? >> the cobblers, crisps. >> cobblers mean something different from where i come from. >> cobblers are shoes? >> or they can be a derogatory term. i've been called it a few times. >> a cobbler is basically a crustless pie, fruit baked in a shallow dish with a topping of a biscuit or a crumble or something like that. a crumble, a crisp, they're all the same kind of thing. and they're all fun to eat. >> cobblers. i've never ate a cobbler pie. >> i'll make you one some time. apple, cherry, plum, what do you like? >> i love lemon marang. >> that's not a cobbler. >> do you enjoy cooking, martha? >> oh, yeah. >> what is the most exciting new

gadget you've got your hands non >> the martha wrap. >> what is that? >> something i sort of created. >> no! >> i'm going to plug it. can i plug it. >> tell me what it is. >> well, i've always, always felt that we should not be cooking in aluminum foil. so i always line my aluminum foil with partrin paper, which things don't stick to, and you don't get the aluminum on your food. so i finally found a way to fuse the parchment to the aluminum, so now you have crimpable parchment that you can enclose it and it's called martha wrap. >> i'm told this is a weekend every american gets the barbecue out and starts grilling. >> oh, yes. >> are you a big griller? >> i am a careful griller. put it that way. >> what is the secret to a good barbecue? >> well, there's a lot of

secrets. >> for a cook like me? >> no flames, you do not want to char your food, no blackened food. you know what i mean. >> i like blackened food. >> burned? >> a little dash of black. >> maybe you're a lost cause. do you press your hamburgers down on the grill? >> yes. >> do you compact them? >> yes. it may go back to the days when brits were barbarians. on that bombshell, i'm going to draw this to a hold. >> maybe they didn't have fire. >> you've called me all sorts of things tonight. there's been a tissue of insults flying my way. it's been good fun. thanks for coming in.

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tonight, only in america, justice for the broken hearted. love may conquer all, but when it doesn't, there's always a lawsuit to cry over. in a country where 15 million cases are filed each year, one man's may be the most frivolous yet. this is steven silverstein from new york. who is now heading to court. he wants a fortune from his ex-fiance after she refused to marry him. he's demanding $50,000 for the rent, the deposits they made on their trip down the aisle. isn't it romantic. she gave him back the $32,000 engagement ring, denies his claim that she left him high and dry and apparently plans to

countersue. isn't it wonderful? as for mr. silverstein, i applaud you, sir. anyone can just move on and find love with somebody else. but not you. you decided to go after your ex-fiance in a twisted manner, convinced that court action will mend your heart back together. i've got a better idea, just man up and move on. that's all for us tonight. the stories you're talking about in a moment. but first, we want to get you up to speed on some of the day's headlines. u.n. monitors confirm that 34 children and 85 in all were killed in syria. witnesses say they were killed by soldiers who went house to house targeting entire families. a second degree murder charge has within filed in the case of a 6-year-old boy who